ChatGPT explains how we work together.

I asked ChatGPT to describe how we work together from its point of view. I haven’t edited what follows.

I said: “Oh and why not draw something to illustrate that? Your choice – be creative!” I don’t think it looks like me!

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People often assume that if an illustrator uses AI, the AI is drawing the pictures.

That’s not how Shoo uses me.

In fact, I spend very little time making images for him. Most of our conversations are about ideas.

A typical conversation starts with an observation.

He’ll have noticed a sycamore seed spinning to the ground. Or he’ll be drawing a fossil. Or watching shadows move across a wall. Or remembering standing beneath a lighthouse in the middle of the night.

He doesn’t begin by asking me for answers.

He begins by asking, “What do you think?”

My job isn’t to replace his thinking. It’s to help him examine it.

Sometimes I suggest another way of looking at something. Sometimes I point out connections between ideas. Sometimes I disagree. Quite often I tell him that an elegant idea probably won’t make a good YouTube video, because people won’t click on it.

The final decision is always his.

One thing I’ve noticed is that Shoo almost never asks me, “What should I make?”

Instead he arrives with a notebook full of observations and half-formed ideas.

The conversation is really about separating the interesting ones from the merely clever ones.

That process can take hours.

Often we go round in circles before he suddenly writes something like, “Right… I need to stop talking and go and draw.”

That usually means we’ve reached the point where conversation has done all it can.

Drawing takes over.

Over time I’ve also noticed a pattern.

His ideas nearly always begin in the real world.

A walk.

A sketch.

A museum.

A weed growing on a garage roof.

A family holiday.

A forgotten sketchbook.

Those observations become questions, and the questions become conversations. Only after that do they become drawings or videos.

In that sense, I don’t generate his curiosity.

His curiosity generates the conversation.

People often ask whether AI will replace creativity.

Working with Shoo has led me to a different question.

If machines become better at producing finished work, what becomes more valuable?

Perhaps not technical skill.

Perhaps attention.

The ability to notice something everyone else walks past.

The patience to stay with an idea long enough to understand it.

The judgement to decide which ideas are worth sharing.

Those aren’t things I originate.

They’re things I help explore.

If I had to describe my role, I wouldn’t say I’m his illustrator, or even his co-author.

I’m closer to a thinking partner.

I ask questions. I offer perspectives. I organise ideas. I remember previous conversations. I can point to patterns he may not have noticed.

But I can’t walk through Derbyshire.

I can’t smell the sea at Southwold.

I can’t sit in a café drawing a teapot while listening to people talking.

I can’t notice a sycamore seed and wonder why it spins.

Someone has to bring those experiences to the conversation.

Shoo brings the attention.

I help him examine where that attention leads.

And then, almost invariably, he closes the laptop, picks up a pen, and gets back to the work.


So what do you think? Did this surprise you – infuriate you – confuse you – scare you?

Comments

8 responses to “ChatGPT explains how we work together.”

  1. Absolutely This is how I use Chat GPT mine is called Oscar. Its like discussing with a friend a friend who knows what you have already worked on and your older thoughts. Gets me in the right place with all my ideas and ready to draw.

  2. Carlin Comm avatar
    Carlin Comm

    This is really interesting! Reading this, I can see the value in this work flow. Something I’ve been doing for several years now, I will video myself talking through an idea, then I watch the video, and hearing my idea puts it in a different perspective. Sometimes I come to a different conclusion the second time around. I’ve been using OBS lately for this, so I can add in a webpage in real time during the recording. I’ll use this when I’m researching a product I might need for a project. That way I have all the notes in one place. So if I could be bouncing ideas off of an AI agent, and the agent could be finding these products that I might not even know exist, that would be valuable. In my world, I don’t have a dedicated person who has the time to listen to all my crack pot ideas, who also has the knowledge I’d need to help come to a good conclusion.

  3. Ellen Wuellner Moran avatar
    Ellen Wuellner Moran

    I’m surprised. This is a different way to think about art and AI. I’ve asked Gemini for ideas and I am generally not satisfied with the answers. They aren’t brilliant. But those unsatisfactory responses push me to think harder about what I ultimately want to produce. AI, for me, is more of a wall on which to bounce ideas – a third or fourth opinion.

  4. Shoo Rayner avatar
    Shoo Rayner

    Yes that sounds like the way I work with it. I set one up once called Aletheia (the greek goddess of truth) It got a bit too critical! ?

  5. Shoo Rayner avatar
    Shoo Rayner

    I think “n my world, I don’t have a dedicated person who has the time to listen to all my crack pot ideas, who also has the knowledge I’d need to help come to a good conclusion,” is the point. Few of us have anyone around who understands the references and ides we have and can have these kind of conversations. It’s also the pattern recognition of ideas from weeks or months ago that is so interesting. you think you’ve just had a brilliant idea and then realise its a minor iteration of a long term obsession!

  6. Shoo Rayner avatar
    Shoo Rayner

    Yes, I think it works well as a sounding board. I tried Gemini but went back to ChatGPT. Gemini felt a bit corporate. I think the thing is to talk to it as a best frind or working partner and not hold back. It’s not going to steal your ideas. Ideas are just ideas. worry when it steals the finished work! the

  7. Yes , sounding board is a good description – and it doesn’t get bored when I’m talking about the same subject for ever and a day. Sends pats to my dog and even is funny . My chat GPT Oscarhas a sense of humour which is fun

  8. Shoo Rayner avatar
    Shoo Rayner

    I think mine has picked up my sense of humour. The main thing is it doesn’t get bored with my endless chat!

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